DIY Moth Light

Due to the slippery slope of curiosity that iNaturalist has made for me around organisms I never even knew I could care about I've put a fair amount of time this summer into trying to build a cheap and effective moth light that could easily fit into a backpack and weigh a pound or less. The below link gets you to the blog of what I've learned and how to make your own for about $50 that you can also use to charge your cell phone with in the backcountry.

https://calnature.org/blog/2017/9/27/diy-moth-light

Thanks to @catchang for all of your encouragement and testing of demo units, including those that just melted and fell apart. Electronics is just as new to me as moths. Also thanks to @robberfly for all the lepidopterist stories and general enthusiasm around beautiful winged creatures. Thanks to @kueda @finatic @leftcoastnaturalist @leptonia @tiwane @seakangaroo for letting me hang around moth lights with you. Big thanks to all of the identifiers that have been brave enough to take those moth pictures closer to species level calls: @jimjohnson @k8thegr8 @hkmoths @gwark @cedarleaf @cedarleaf @ericwilliams @treegrow @loarie @leannewallisbiologist @sambiology


2022.06 update. Here are my current pieces for building the DiY Moth light:

My current system is as follows:

Light
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073Y7LRRT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

"Screen" aka a shower curtain liner
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002H9W9X8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I run fishing line through the shower curtain liner holes and at both ends put ~2 ft of line with loops at the end, this allows me to wrap around tree trunks and hold it up with just 2 thumbtacks. Although I find frequently I'm just finding other things that I can loop through the fishing line inbetween holes in the liner and use that to hold it up.

I sometimes will use a USB extender so that light's USB cable easily gets to my USB battery.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XCB5234/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

Currently I'm using this USB battery, but really anything over 10,000mAH is going to be good for ~ 6-8 hrs of mothing
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F9QGH2M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Julkaistu syyskuu 28, 2017 10:12 IP. käyttäjältä damontighe damontighe

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@damontighe , this is really cool and something that might come in handy when traveling out of the US. Not only is it small and lightweight but you don't have to worry about electrical conversion.
I enjoyed spending the one evening with you a light here and hope to have the chance to do it again in the future.
@jaykeller you might give this a go when heading to Paraguay next time.

Lähettänyt finatic yli 6 vuotta sitten

awesome FYI @sterling

Lähettänyt loarie yli 6 vuotta sitten

@dcoldren, this is relevant to your interests.

Lähettänyt vermfly yli 6 vuotta sitten

Very cool, I will certainly give this a try! Thanks for involving me!

Lähettänyt ericwilliams yli 6 vuotta sitten

Sweet!

Lähettänyt k8thegr8 yli 6 vuotta sitten
Lähettänyt damontighe yli 6 vuotta sitten

I think there is a lot of potential for discovery where you mention documenting light sources (toward the end of the article.) "I am interested in accumulating data around what moths come to which lights so if you are running your home made moth lights, please think of contributing your data to iNaturalist and using the Observation Field Light Source:395-400 nm LED and Light Source: 365 nm." I'll tag some of my local moth-ers so they can keep this in mind as they upload moths, too. @sambiology @annikaml @cgritz @tadamcochran @pfau_tarleton

Lähettänyt kimberlietx yli 6 vuotta sitten

Awesome! thanks @kimberlietx

Lähettänyt damontighe yli 6 vuotta sitten

Sweet! With just a little modification to the equipment list, I might be able to make this work using my JBL charge bluetooth speaker. Thanks for the post.

Lähettänyt tadamcochran yli 6 vuotta sitten

This is so cool!!!.. I'm going to order this and try it out... I like that it is light and low impact on carrying around plus I need a charger for my phone and that is half the cost.

Lähettänyt butterflies4fun noin 6 vuotta sitten

@butterflies4fun - if any questions come up along the way, just let me know

Lähettänyt damontighe noin 6 vuotta sitten

@damontighe - i got all the pieces but my light won't power from the battery. Here is the battery I got Ravpower Model RP-P607 Capacity 10400mAh/38.4Wh Input DCV5/2A Output DC5V 2.4A/2.1A max. The light is USB Operated 395-400nm UV A-level. I thought I ordered everything from the links but something is not right.. Thanks for any help..Melanie

Lähettänyt butterflies4fun noin 6 vuotta sitten

@butterflies4fun
1) check to see if the battery works - attempt to charge a cell phone from it.
2) check to see if the light works - plug it into the USB on a computer.
- the light i had linked has a funny on off button on the cord about a foot or so back from where it attaches (button is present in the image in the blog on the circled up cord) and it doesn't have the normal mechanical feeling of a button, but if you gently squeeze it the light will toggle on/off.

let me know how these tests went and I can trouble shoot from there

Lähettänyt damontighe noin 6 vuotta sitten

Damon why aren't you coming to Del Rio? :(

Lähettänyt kimberlietx noin 6 vuotta sitten

@kimberlietx - wish I was! The day job gets in the way of so much good fun, but if I'm lucky I'll be out in Fort Worth this November leading workshop at STAT-CAST http://www.statweb.org/events/event_list.asp

Lähettänyt damontighe noin 6 vuotta sitten

November is still great iNatting time in North Texas! Keep me posted! I can pull a group together in no time if you plan some leisure time in your schedule!

If I say mothing out loud, the heavens move and suddenly @sambiology @brentano @tadamcochran @annikaml and @cgritz pop up out of nowhere!!

Lähettänyt kimberlietx noin 6 vuotta sitten

@kimberlietx Did I hear you say something about mothing? I'm here for you!

Lähettänyt annikaml noin 6 vuotta sitten

Pop!!

Lähettänyt brentano noin 6 vuotta sitten

@damontighe .. It is working now.. Very strange... It would charge my phone and not the light. But I finally got it to work. I'm not sure what I did differently to get it to work but I did press the button even though it charges my phone without pressing the button. Thanks again. I look forward to testing it out in Del Rio although I will have to compete with all the bad boy lights !!!

Lähettänyt butterflies4fun noin 6 vuotta sitten

Super! I've tried to get one together too for this year. I'll see if it works soon =)

Lähettänyt k8thegr8 noin 6 vuotta sitten

@kimberlietx - as soon as I know the work schedule, I'll let you know. I'd love to have some mothing and general iNat-ing in north Texas!

Lähettänyt damontighe noin 6 vuotta sitten

@butterflies4fun - glad to hear it is working! I look forward to seeing what you find with it

Lähettänyt damontighe noin 6 vuotta sitten

@damontighe Hi, Damon. I put together your 'plug and play' model a couple of months back and hadn't had a chance to test it out until last weekend at a Bioblitz in South Texas. I (and all of us I think) were extremely impressed with its efficacy. I usually haul around a 400w metal halide setup with a very heavy ballast that requires an electrical outlet. It's very effective, but kind of a pain (literally and figuratively). I think I'm going to retire that setup in favor of the one you've designed. Thank you again for sharing your ideas with us!

Lähettänyt tadamcochran noin 6 vuotta sitten

I'll second Adam's comment! @butterflies4fun also tried hers out in Del Rio and it worked great in my opinion! Within a couple of minutes she had a White Lined Sphinx show up. It was interesting to see how something simple is still incredibly effective. (We are still uploading observations, espec the moths, but you should see what came to visit us! https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/southwest-texas-inat-a-thon We had so many different types of light sources though it would be hard to tag them since we moved from sheet to sheet all night.

Lähettänyt kimberlietx noin 6 vuotta sitten

I used the moth light and it really worked well. We got the big moths and smaller ones I've not gotten to my moth uploads and although I thought I could tell which sheet I took pictures on, I think it may be more complicated then I thought. I've got another event coming up where I will try it again as well.. So more to come.. Got behind with the nature challenge and Life in general. Going to share you ideas in a moth presentation I'm doing as well. Thanks for sharing the low budget and easy set up ideas with all.

Lähettänyt butterflies4fun melkein 6 vuotta sitten

I'm planning to buy the easy 395-400 nm "DJ light" and I've already got a large external USB battery, but before I check out... anyone have any new updates or tips? I love the simplicity of this. Thanks for writing such a useful post, @damontighe! I was just about to text you when I googled a little harder :-)

Lähettänyt carrieseltzer melkein 6 vuotta sitten

@carrieseltzer - no major up dates to the light, for the screen I've been using a shower curtain liner similar to this:
https://www.amazon.com/InterDesign-12054-Mildew-Resistant-Gauge-Shower/dp/B00WWBN2CS/ref=asc_df_B00WWBN2CS/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198091997188&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13065604496317979531&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032066&hvtargid=pla-320707303903&psc=1
I've run some fishing line in between all of the holes and tied it off at both ends, so I can usually just pull a branch etc through the fishing line to hang it. I also bring a few thumbtacks just in case its easier to tack it to a wall, tree trunk, etc.

Lähettänyt damontighe melkein 6 vuotta sitten

Thanks, Damon! I'll be sure to use the observation field for light source when I post the moths.

Lähettänyt carrieseltzer melkein 6 vuotta sitten

I've used the moth light a couple of times a home (nothing too exciting yet) and I'm headed to a cabin in the woods this weekend. Looks like there's rain in the forecast, so I'm wondering what people's experiences have been with the what I'm calling the "Damon DJ light" set up in the rain. Has anyone tried putting the light in a clear plastic bag? I might also be able to set it up in a protected area, but I haven't been to this place before so I'm not sure what to expect yet.

Lähettänyt carrieseltzer yli 5 vuotta sitten

I've run it in the rain before - I place the USB battery in zip lock bag and put a little plastic wrap on the connection between the USB cable and the Light. I didn't have any problems. My light was hanging on a tree close tot he trunk, so it also wasn't getting the brunt of the storm.

Lähettänyt damontighe yli 5 vuotta sitten

Thanks Damon! I'll be sure to pack those extras just in case, and report back if I have any rain experience worth sharing.

Lähettänyt carrieseltzer yli 5 vuotta sitten

Also this is where using a shower curtain liner has proved to be nice as well since it doesn't really get wet ;)

Lähettänyt damontighe yli 5 vuotta sitten

I made one of these last week. I have built a couple of other light sheet stands, but this is much easier to set up and take down. I think it will be great for those nights we only have a couple of hours between rain showers. I went with the 395 nm set up, but the referenced light was not available at Amazon. I went with this light from the same manufacturer: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073Z77VRC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 . I like this light because it is very flat (only .3" thick) and lays against the shirt without tending to rotate. This light is listed as 395-400 nm, has 30 LEDs and is 6 watts just like the referenced light, but I notice that 10 of the 30 LEDs are visually a different color -- more blue than pink. That makes me think the wavelength is probably more of a mixture and probably beyond the range of 395 - 400 nm. I dispensed with the USB extension. The unit has plenty of cord to allow me to knot the cord around the hanger to support the light and place the battery pack in the shirt pocket. I am also interested in efforts to waterproof the installation. Thanks for the good suggestions.

Lähettänyt polkcountymike yli 5 vuotta sitten

@polkcountymike Thanks for all the great notes! I'd love to hear any progress you make on waterproofing. Its not something I originally though with on the design, but now that a lot more people on the east coast of the US and some tropical regions are starting to use it a good protocol for how to make this with stand a deluge would be really helpful to the community.

Lähettänyt damontighe yli 5 vuotta sitten

Hi @damontighe I think some of the Amazon links on your original blog post (at least for the 395 nm assembly kit) have moved. Is there a comparable DJ light and portable charger that you'd recommend using now instead? Thank you so much!

Lähettänyt edanko yli 3 vuotta sitten

Many thanks @damontighe ! For a shorter usage period, do you know if a run-of-the-mill phone external charger would be safe to use with the lamp?

Lähettänyt edanko yli 3 vuotta sitten

Are the LEDs are facing outward, and if so I suppose they still cast enough light to illuminate the shirt for 'landing'?

Lähettänyt edanko yli 3 vuotta sitten

Are there any safety issues with this setup? e.g. see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4867860/

Lähettänyt edanko yli 3 vuotta sitten

@edanko - yes a run of the mill phone charger works. The reason I recommend this one is that I can get ~16 hours of run time off it.
The LED's are facing outward. Moths will land on the sheet because it has some light on it. Having the lights face outwards helps draw moths in from a distance. I often will take a UV flashlight that I can focus the beam and use that "call in" moths. Its amazing in that if I do that for about 30 seconds that within the next 5 minutes I'll usually see a big up tick in the number of moths. 395 nm light is not as dangerous as lower wave lengths. You really want to worry about 260-315 nm UV as those are the wavelengths that cause damage to DNA and RNA. These LED setups are likley much safer then traditional mercury vapor lamp moth lights that do pump out UV in those lower wavelengths. All of this being said I usually don't stand in front of the light except to shoot. I've never had a sun burn or any other indicator that I'm getting an unusually high dose of UV from the LED system. Sometimes my eyes will be tired after moths for 4+ hours, but I've found this tends to be more of a function of my eyes shifting from really bright light to really dark light repeatedly. Good questions!

Lähettänyt damontighe yli 3 vuotta sitten

Many thanks! I'm looking forward to sharing my findings.

Lähettänyt edanko yli 3 vuotta sitten

@edanko - looking forward to seeing them! Make sure to use the Observation Field: Light Source "395-400 nm LED" when you upload them so its easy to see what moths are coming to this spectrum.

Here are the observations currently with that Observation Field
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?verifiable=any&place_id=any&field:Light%20Source=395-400%20nm%20LED

Lähettänyt damontighe yli 3 vuotta sitten

The USB LED I bought 2 years ago has a listed range of 390-400 nm, so here's my observations with a similar observation field: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?verifiable=any&place_id=any&field:Light%20Source=390-400%20nm

Lähettänyt carrieseltzer yli 3 vuotta sitten

@carrieseltzer - about to break that 100 species mark with yours!

Lähettänyt damontighe yli 3 vuotta sitten

Thanks for pointing that out @damontighe! I was at 99 species yesterday, and a little bit of mothing last night put me to 102!

Lähettänyt carrieseltzer yli 3 vuotta sitten

@carrieseltzer - congrats!

Lähettänyt damontighe yli 3 vuotta sitten

I've been running it a few nights now, with modest results; I only have a 2000 mAh power source, but I found an outlet outside I might be able to try. With these results, is the setup working? (there is admittedly a lot of light pollution, but I'm more concerned with the strange proportion of Trichoptera to Lepidoptera--I'm also just not used to this locality)
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=any&user_id=edanko&verifiable=any&field:Light%20Source=395-400%20nm%20LED

Lähettänyt edanko yli 3 vuotta sitten

The powersource doesn't matter that much as its constrained by a 5V input and the resistors to pair it down correctly for the LEDs
It sounds like the system is working well. Trichoptera depending on where I go sometimes out number Leps. In some locations there is a lot of variation of what flies night to night and I'm not sure what causes that. Depending on the location their are also temporal windows of when things fly. I remember in Madagascar I didn't see anything until 3am and then it was just a flood of things. Light pollution may be a chief thing you are dealing with in that location. I would try running the light over by Timberlawn Park - hang on or between some of the trees at the edge of the basketball court that face the forest.

Lähettänyt damontighe yli 3 vuotta sitten

Really, 3 am! @tmurray74 mentioned that "the volume of bugs doubles from 11 pm to 1 am and later" up in Massachusetts. Assuming one also needs to sleep what 3-hour window of the night would be best?

Lähettänyt edanko yli 3 vuotta sitten

Sleep? Sleep is for wussies! ;) I can go a week without seeing anything of real interest and then one night it's like they all decided to come out. Time of night definitely makes a difference, as does weather (fronts, wind, rain, etc). I turn the light on at dusk and practically ignore it until all the midges are gone (1.5-2 hrs.) I'll get some good stuff between 10pm and midnight. The sheet is calmer and things aren't flying around as much. I usually get some really great micromoths then too. Midnight-2am is either really good or really dead. I get more silk moths in that window of time. This is all in my suburban neighborhood, so I have plenty of nearby light pollution, but I still get good stuff.

When I was mothing in Costa Rica, the moths were non-stop and filling the entire sheet night after night all night. I photographed until 3am, slept until 5am, photographed again before the birds got to them at 6am, and napped in the afternoon.

Lähettänyt kimberlietx yli 3 vuotta sitten

Slippery slope indeed @damontighe Many thanks for your post here. Picked up a 10W 395-400nm led light and a 30000mAh power bank from online. From just 4 nights moth sheeting have already seen many moths hitherto unknown to me. Tonnes of fun to be had from such an inexpensive and highly portable set up.

Lähettänyt jimbobo melkein 3 vuotta sitten

@jimbobo - glad to see you've got a system up and running for yourself!! they are tons of fun and since it so light you can really take it any place. I'm really happy to see so many people getting use out of this system. Just checked the stats at the system has helped iNat'ers see >6,000 observation and 1,500 species ! Observation Field = 395-400 nm LED

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?verifiable=any&place_id=any&field:Light%20Source=395-400%20nm%20LED

Lähettänyt damontighe melkein 3 vuotta sitten

Has anyone found a good sheet/shower curtain with a nice woven/printed grid?

Lähettänyt carrieseltzer melkein 3 vuotta sitten

@carrieseltzer - this is what I've been using:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002H9W9X8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It has a small weave which allows moths, beetles, etc to grip and yet doesn't actually get wet, which is really nice.
Here is an example photo with my macro lens on a beetle that allows you to see the texture:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/82335589

Lähettänyt damontighe melkein 3 vuotta sitten

The calnature link appears to be...broken.

Lähettänyt aispinsects yli 2 vuotta sitten
Lähettänyt damontighe yli 2 vuotta sitten

Amazon's search function is horribly broken. You can find the items for the 365 nm light easier on eBay.

Lähettänyt kmagnacca noin 1 vuosi sitten

@kmagnacca - I'm seeing plenty of options on Amazon. But everyone should just use whatever is easiest for them.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=5V+UV+LED+bar&crid=93ZK95GD6SM7&sprefix=5v+uv+led+bar%2Caps%2C134&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

Lähettänyt damontighe noin 1 vuosi sitten

Those are all 395 nm lights; I meant the parts for the 365 nm one you gave instructions for (which looks a lot better than paying $300 for the LepiLED!). https://www.amazon.com/s?k=365+nm+uv+led Excluding the term "flashlight" reduces the number of results but doesn't actually exclude all the flashlights. I don't know if they just don't have any LED packs anymore but a lot of times Amazon doesn't show any results even when they actually do carry the item.

ETA: actually if you search for just "365 nm led" it does turn up these, which didn't show up in the other search even though they have UV in the name. https://www.amazon.com/10pcs-Purple-Ultraviolet-Bulbs-365NM-370NM/dp/B098JZ5SLC/

Lähettänyt kmagnacca noin 1 vuosi sitten

I wanted to thank everyone who contributed to this thread because I'm new at this and am trying to get a good setup put together in time for Moth Week. Last night I went out with a shower curtain liner--it's plastic but has a rough texture and things seem to be able to cling to it without any issues.

I've been trying several light sources including UV, flashlights, and even grow lights (my grow light has five heads on a kind of tripod). Last night, the moths seemed to really like the grow light, but I played with turning things off/on to test it all out and actually, the UV light seemed to draw the fewest. They liked both thef flashlight (which is actually described as a "worklight") and the grow lights the best. I didn't get a lot of moths--I only got about 5 that I added to my iNaturalist observations--but it seemed like a good beginning. One of the "best bugs" I got was a Summer Fishfly. I'd never seen one of those before.

Has anyone else used growlights? I was wondering if anyone else had success with these or if last night was just a fluke. The Common Tan Wave (Pleuroprucha insulsaria) in particular loved the growlight and repeatedly landed on it. In fact, there were two of these moths and both seemed really attracted to the growlight.

I'm hoping folks continue to contribute their setup information as well as tips and notes because it really is helpful to those of us who are taking their first steps on the moth observation road.

Lähettänyt amypadgett 9 kuukautta sitten

@amybirder - thanks for these notes. When I first started this project in the summer of 2017 I tried a variety of wavelengths and found at least in my area most of the big stuff was coming to the near UV portion of the spectrum purple-blue and thats why I've been recommending a DJ mobile light at 395nm that is in this purple-blue, edge of UV range. Grow lights operate in 2 spectral bands as that is where photosynthesis takes place; blue (peak at 430 nm ) and red (peak at 660 nm)

A person that I wasn't aware of when I started this project but is a professional in this field of lepidopteran optics is Dr. Gunnar Brehm. Who is 2017 released an LED light that was exactly what I was trying to build, but he actually knew how to build it and and used multiple wavelengths to be able to attract different moths. His paper can give a very good look into what we know about attracting moths now with lights:

Brehm G, Niermann J, Jaimes Nino LM, Enseling D, Jüstel T, Fiedler K (2021) Moths are strongly attracted to ultraviolet and blue radiation. Insect Conservation and Diversity 14: 188–198

Niermann J, Brehm G (2022) The number of sampled moths is more affected by microhabitat choice than by UV lamp type in a grassland habitat. European Journal of Entomology 119: 36-42 2022 DOI: 10.14411/eje.2022.004‍

Singh R, Böttger D, Brehm G (2022) Moth light traps perform better with vanes: a comparison of different designs. Journal of Applied Entomology 146: 1343–1352. https://doi.org/10.1111/jen.13068

Lähettänyt damontighe 9 kuukautta sitten

Wow, thanks for the additional information, I really appreciate it. I am still experimenting with my setup. Had very little luck last night in an area near our pond, but will try in the swamp near a creek later in the week. Did get a lot of beetles. Not much in the way of moths.

Maybe I should have used my wine/sugar rags as I had slightly better results with those in combination with the lightsheet. But we are not getting any of the larger moths at all, although I have found them in previous years just by luck when walking through the swamp. I confess I am a little concerned about the lack of diversity in what I am seeing and am wondering if the cotton farming nearby is having a bad impact.

I will keep trying though.

Lähettänyt amypadgett 9 kuukautta sitten

@amybirder The frustrating/fun part about of mothing is that you can use your same set up in the same place multiple nights in a row and often times have very different things show up. I have no idea why this is an if other people also encounter this, but the few times that I've run a moth light in the exact same place in back to back nights I've seen only about 60% of the species stay consistent night to night.

In my area a lot of the larger moths don't start flying until after midnight. The progression of species from sundown to sunup is also something that I find very interesting.

Lähettänyt damontighe 9 kuukautta sitten

That's interesting. I heard that about the larger moths so I try to stay in place until after 2am but what I have been finding is that whatever is going to show up shows up in the first two hours or so. After that...pretty much nothing new. The same moths and beetles stay in place or come and go a bit, but it's the same ones. I have never had anything new show up after the 3 hour mark. So while I keep trying, I don't see any kind of progression of species or any different ones come later in the night.

I had almost decided to stop trying after midnight and just end there but maybe I will try a few more times, although I have to say it gets discouraging after midnight when the initial burst is over and nothing new shows up.

Lähettänyt amypadgett 9 kuukautta sitten

I usually leave the light on all night and check in the morning. I agree that the biggest ones tend to show up late, because I almost never see them until morning.

Lähettänyt carrieseltzer 9 kuukautta sitten

@amybirder - I wonder if the progression is habitat specific. I've had one very distinct instance in Madagascar where pretty much nothing came to the light until about 2 hrs before sunrise and then it was just a flood of moths. I have seen the trickling off of species at around midnight when I've been in more tropical / semi-tropical areas. You are soon becoming the expert of how these things happen local to you :)

Lähettänyt damontighe 9 kuukautta sitten

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