Taxonomic Swap 71929 (Tehty 17-02-2020)

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Lisännyt nlblock helmikuu 18, 2020 02:08 AP. | Tallentanut nlblock helmikuu 17, 2020
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I dont like this change, I dont think its ok just to change the genus like nothing, and this butterfly is supposed to be Pyrgus.

Lähettänyt gerardoescobar noin 4 vuotta sitten

I did not change it "like nothing". The research behind the taxonomic change was published in this paper: https://www.pnas.org/content/116/13/6232 (see the Appendix for a list of taxonomic changes). The Pelham catalogue (http://butterfliesofamerica.com/US-Can-Cat.htm) has accepted those changes, and it is the unofficial (used to be official) taxonomic authority for iNat butterflies for the region it covers. Thus, I made the corresponding changes in iNat.

Lähettänyt nlblock noin 4 vuotta sitten

I cant agree with that

Lähettänyt gerardoescobar noin 4 vuotta sitten

The research shows that the Burnsius species (inclulding communis) are more closely related to Heliopetes species than they are to the "original" Pyrgus species, so it makes sense to me that they should be moved out of Pyrgus into their own genus.

Lähettänyt nlblock noin 4 vuotta sitten

I dont think so.

Lähettänyt gerardoescobar noin 4 vuotta sitten

Thanks Nick.

I'm no taxonomist, but this looks up to par from what I can see. I couldn't find any dissent in the published literature.
http://zoobank.org/NomenclaturalActs/48996b74-3ab1-4dea-9a64-b8f112e62343
https://lepsurvey.carolinanature.com/ttr/ttr-8-1.pdf

Best Regards,

Corey

Lähettänyt coreyk noin 4 vuotta sitten

My only issue with this change is how it was implemented here on iNat. There are many observations only identified to genus Pyrgus that are likely Burnsius. We need a taxon change to split the genus too, not just move a couple of species out of it. That way observations only IDed to genus will end up at the tribe level and no be incorrect (though less accurate than they might be).

Lähettänyt maractwin noin 4 vuotta sitten

I agree, @maractwin. Based on a brief discussion about the buckeye split, I think I royally screwed up this and the buckeye split because I didn't think a taxon split would apply. I feel pretty shitty about it, to be honest. I'm not sure the best way to resolve it at the moment, as I haven't had time to look into it in detail.

Lähettänyt nlblock noin 4 vuotta sitten

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